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of government in your life. i would like to know what to think about that. it is a hearty debate it seems this year between the two debates. our lines are open and. -- lines are open. you also send us a message by e- mail. can post on facebook foresees ben. weet.end us fa t what should the role of government be in your life? this story was part of peter baker's coverage of the debate. a clash of philosophies. one side sees the central government role. the other side wanted to get out of the way. is also the subject of a fairly new poll from the gallup group majority in the u.s.a., doing too much. so the majority of americans continue to believe the government is trying to do too many things. that is down from a record high of 61% earlier this summer. but for an 10th said the government should do more to solve the nation's problems. we wanted to turn to you and ask, what you believe the role of the government should be in your life? let us listen to president obama. [video clip] >> the first role is to keep the american people state. that is its most basic function. as commander in chief,

of congressmen who were worried about government spending. the committee chairman is congressman jim jordan. what do you want to do? cut for people of? >> no, we want to help them get to a better life. what you need to do is create programs that actually help people get to a better life. john: ever done before. >> you do it by not waving the work requirement like this administration did. you -- john: to be fair, they have not totally waived a work requirement. they let some states experiment. >> they also let some states not have a work requirement and there sang were not going to require that one key element that helps people get to the american dream, experiences. did the job. that is what we want to see. that key ingredient to accomplish anything that we all learn. john: how? that was already in the original welfare reform act? we have a new welfare reform act, updated version. >> for trying to get a handle on all of the social welfare spending the federal government does. estimates are 600 billion the year when you factor in medicaid and the 70 plus different programs that are out there. john

here of aiding and abetting a foreign government. it was unclear whether the paraguayan was acting within or without the state's authority, but he was later deported, so we do not know t answer. here the offense is magnified because the allegation is that in english and a dutch company aided and abetted the nigerian government. that is where the offense to the principle against international friction -- international friction is at its highest. if you want to adopt our position in full, at a minimum we think he should hold that the prisons and applies to foreign keep cases involving aiding and abetting a foreign government. but we do not think he should do that. we respectfully submit the better approach is to apply the presumption as a categorial matter. >> why was there not an aiding and abetting? i think it was pretty clear. he was probably working for the government, which is even worse. i am interested in the justice ginsburg pose a question. just assume we think the second circuit was right, is there any way in which we can use the principle of extraterritoriality to roll in

this is a roundtable. >> i know you did not know enough about government. >> may be in it -- instead of saying i am scared to face you, i am facing you right now. forward and we will see if there are more debate later on. >> the issue of government assistance and who pays for them and receive them. the city recorded a video at mitt romney -- the secret recorded video of mitt romney at a private fund-raiser. let's take a look. >> 47% -- >> in 2010, 38.5% of texans filing a retirement paid no income tax. there is no complete data on who get government assistance but last year, 24% of households get social security. almost 14% debt retirement income. 5% get disability benefits and almost 14%, food stamps. >> do you think east texans are victims of believe government has a responsibility to care for them? >> of course not. i agree with mitt romney when he said is, there were poorly phrased? there is a difference. part of the philosophy of president obama and this administration is trying to get as many americans as possible dependent on government so the democrats can stay in power in perpetuity. the r

? . what happens if we do? think of 1995. and we had a government shutdown. the pressure on both sides was so intense ones the government shut down that they had a deal within three weeks. the market consequences are more significant out. it is inconceivable that if we go into january there will not be a settlement in january, early february, the latest. we hit the debt ceiling -- sealing interviewer it anyway. one side will have to blink. probably both sides will link to some degree. i have talked to people in financial markets in new york about how they would react to all of this. a lot of reaction is that if there is any deal, it will make our directive to january 1 those tax cuts and we will remove sequestration. what i am being told is that in the interim, the damage will not be that significant. for fiscal hawks, many of us have been saying for years, when do we get action? if it happens in december, that is better. if it happens in january, that is significant progress. i think they said it very succinctly. carlisle and azande wrote, ideally, policy makers that they would work a

's damming comments that 47% of americans were freeloaders dependent on government handouts. obama campaign adviser david plough had an answer. it wasn't very good. >> 47%, that's an issue that 100% of the country knows about. the president wanted to tell the american people here's my job plan. focused on energy and education on the right way to fix the deficit. romney's approach is the wrong approach on taxes on deficit on wall street reform, on medicare and healthcare. >> eliot: on "good morning america," comedian jon stewart said he tried the same strategy in an upcoming debate with bile o'reilly. >> strategy that obama took, it is the rope-a-dope but instead of letting your opponent punch himself out you just get beat up. >> eliot: ouch. piling insult on top of self-inflicted injury, john sununu told msnbc's andrea mitchell -- >> what people saw last night i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is. >> did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the unit

, recognized by both political parties as turning point. a change debate about the role of government, free market to the future trajectory of our nation. in that debate, campaign commercials and political rhetoric abound. sound bytes, daily reactions dominate the news cycle. luckily for us in the miss -- mist of this a serious thinker wrote a serious book. having been discovered by william f. buckley and grown up writing and reading for national review and overcome the education at harvard university and the upbringing in west virginia, he it a touring figure of the conservative movement. rightly sew. a professor of government the the clare month college. he's the coed or it with william f. buckley of keeping the tablet of modern american conservative thought. he is written extensively on american constitutionalism and political ideas. indeed the addition nat federalist paper the one published -- is the best selling edition in the united states. he can contributes regularly to the opinion pages of the "the wall street journal," "los angeles times," writes about flicks, and -- politicking a

to the failure of, for the federal government to give money to the states in this time of crisis, which president obama supported. but you know, i think you'd see independent women, as i said before, a growing block of women, not just progressives are democrats, democratic women, could you worry about the fact that their daughter, for example, might not have access to planned parenthood, which, by the way, is really about women's health, mammograms, and not just these hot-button issues of reproductive choice. so i do think the independent women voters are the canary in the coal mined in terms of the seeing a republican party that is not hospitable or open to women's health rights, and linked to that in order to control your economic destiny you need to control your health. host: michael is a political science major. >> i will begin with the article that ran on "the nation" frontpage. why have appointments gone by the wayside in this election? guest: president obama has faced obstruction but has not been as engaged with putting forward judges. by the way, the supreme court today may be years 2% of

. one is make the big picture. he's the free enterpriser and president obama is the big government planner. and those are big differences in philosophy in government. two, romney has a tax cut plan. he has a spending cut plan. he has an energy plan. he's got to make it clear. he's got to explain to people the connection between his plans and the economic recovery that we have not yet had. that's a tall order for romney. and he's going to have to fight hard for it while the, of course is attacking him. >> you said earlier i was watching kudlow and company, you said the first impression is important. he's got to swing right away. you think he'll do that? >> that's my hunch. i've seen this before. aggressive. he's got to put this sort of line in the sand. here's what i believe. and here's what he believes. and there's a big choice in this election. he is the guy who wants redistribution. i'm the guy who wants growth. he's the guy who wants government centered economy. i'm the guy for free enterprise. he's got to say that. but it's doubly hard because he's got to put meat on the bones

and usa government doing too much. still the majority of americans, 54% continue to believe the government is trying to do too many things that should be left to individuals and businesses. the high as 61% this summer. four out of ten americans, 39% say the government should do more to solve the nation's problems. we want to turn to you and ask you what do you believe the role of the government should be in your life? let's listen to president obama as he answered that question in the debate this week to inspect the first role of the government is to keep people safe. that is the most basic function, and as commander-in-chief, that is something that i have worked on and thought about every single day that i've been in the oval office. but i also believe that government has the capacity, the federal government has the capacity to help open up opportunities and create ladders of opportunity and create frameworks' where the american people can succeed. the genius of america is the free enterprise system and freedom, and the fact that people can go out there and start a business, work on an id

a woman and her children. tonight, turkey announced it had already fired back. the turkish government is deeply hostile to president assad and says that syria must be held to account. they are urging nato allies to help. >> the a very very dangerous situation. all responsible nations need to band together to persuade the assad regime to have a cease- fire. >> this is exactly what many people feared, the conflict spreading and flaming an already divided region. turkey backed the rebels, lightly armed, but without clear that ship. they have taken ground from a substantial army backed by iran in particular. president assad no longer controls his country, but equally he has not lost it. the longer the syrian deadlock, the greater the risk to its neighbors and the region will get sucked into confrontation. >> you will see this proxy conflict boiling over. you need some kind of international momentum to form a consensus that action can shift the ground away from conflict. >> note and to the conflict is in sight. syrian state television is that this does result of unbearable bombings and a l

voted for him. i understand why you turned away from the last labour government. this government took power in difficult economic times. it was a country still coming to terms with the financial crisis. a financial crisis that has afflicted every country round the world. i understand why you were willing to give david cameron the benefit of the doubt. long think we've had enough to make a judgment. long enough to make a judgement because they turned a recovery into the longest double dip recession since the war. because there are more people looking for work for longer than at any time since the last time there was a conservative government. and here is the other thing, what about borrowing? borrowing. the thing they said was their number one priority. this year borrowing is rising not falling. let me just say that again. borrowing the thing they said was the most important priority, the reason they were elected. it is rising not falling. not because there hasn't been pain and tax rises and cuts affecting every family in this country. not because they didn't want to cut it borrowing.

in state government debts as well. now my final number: $50,000 is the median household income. so, we owe $12,000 more than we make. that means as a nation what we owe now exceeds what we have. that also means even if you confiscate all that we make every penny of its you would not come close to covering what we spend, any of it. that is the issue the guys should be hammering tomorrow night, how vulnerable we are. the guy would lays it out would not just be reframing the debate but setting off a firestorm. but one that need not concern him or us. as the fine of the mind in both political parties have told me, and, yes, there are still quite a few, to quote a certain vice presidential candidate, we can do this. listen to two guys on my fox business network show, which if you don't get you should demand, last night, retired democratic senator sam nunn and former republican senator bob bennett appears jointly on fox business network. each offering relatively modest proposals to fix this mess. listen closely. >> we particularly have to discuss, frankly, with the american people, that the enti

hollywood, big government, big journalism, and big peace, p, e, a, c, e. he became a big player what is come to be called the new media including work as editor on "the drudge report" website and yes the "huffington post". bull buckley didn't dwell in the past but he believed we should and could learn from it. he was fascinated by the rise of the new media and encouraged conservatives to become involved in it as he had in the old media. he didn't live to see it come to full fruition and andrew left us too soon for him to become a greater influence than he already has. a tribute to him that his web sites and work endure. it is my pleasure as the winner of last year's william f. buckley, jr., award to present this year's award posthumously to andrew breitbart. may he rest in peace. [applause] may he rest in peace and may his legacy live on. accepting the award is oars son dean, susie's father and with him is alley mills dean. ♪ . >> thank you. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. you may remember me. i formally went on the screen, under the name of irene dunne. at my age i have some fr

passed overwhelmingly by republicans in states with republican legislatures and republican government. that includes efforts to crack down on voter registration drives, to make it harder for people to register by demanding proof of citizenship. that means cutting back on early voting. that requires the government- issued i.d. to cast a ballot. that prevents ex-felons from voting after they served their time. purging the voter rolls. these are all laws that have been passed by republicans and republican states. that is why the article was titled the gop war on voting. tavis: why are the republicans pushing this issue? what is the take away for them? >> if you ask republicans why they are pushing the issue, they will give you a two word response. voter fraud. if you ask me, it is because they looked at the 2008 election and they saw a massive turnout from young voters, hispanics, and african- americans, termed coalition of the ascendant. they said, this cannot happen again. the demographics are changing that if this coalition of the ascendant turns out in the same numbers in 2012 and go

. presenting a summary, two of the jurists said israeli violations were impossible without u.s. government backing. >> the tribunal finds that israel's ongoing colonial settlement expansion, its racial separatism policies, as well as its violent militarism would not be possible without the united states economic military and diplomatic support. >> the russell tribunal session here in new york will give us the opportunity to further persuade people who believe in justice and equality and peace in this country that they should join the campaign for solidarity with palestinian people and palestinian freedom. the ousted president mohamed nasheed after he ignored a summons to appear in court. he is facing charges of illegally ordering the arrest of a judge appointed by gayoom, who ruled the maldives for 30 years before nasheed became its first democratically elected president in 2008. nasheed was ousted earlier this year in what he described as a coup at gunpoint by gayoom's supporters. nasheed is well known internationally for his activism on the issue of global warming, which he says threaten

debates later on. maybe you two can negotiate that. if you cut government benefits -- a secretly recorded video of mitt romney at a private fund- raiser was made public -- let's take a look. >> 47% of the people -- who will vote for the president a matter what. who believe the government has responsibility to care for them. who believe they are entitled to health care and food and housing, you name it. that is an entitlement. >> texas -- in 2010, 30.5% of texans filing era -- return paid no income tax. there is no data on how many texans get government assistance, but the census bureau found 24% get social security. 20 -- 14% did retirement income. 5% disability bed -- benefits and 14% from strands. mr. cruz, do you believe that government has a responsibility to care for them? >> of course not. i agree with mitt romney when he says his comments were poorly phrased. keefe said they were in elegantly stated. i think there is a difference. part of the philosophy of president obama is trying to get as many americans as possible dependent on government so that the democrats can stay in power

with president obama's health plan, that it wasn't strong enough or that it's government takeover of health care, you can disdegree with him on taxes or whatever, but this is against him personally and trying to destroy and discredit him personally. the obama hate machine. and it's not just fox news. it's out there because of a couple of people that most americans have never heard of, the famous koch brothers, charles -- now-famous, charles and david coke. david koch. and, again, we've seen corporate-sponsored attacks against presidents before, particularly, and i outline two of them, franklin delano roosevelt. by the way, with him it was the dupont brothers, and there were free of those at the -- three of those at the time. formed the liberty league to deny fdr a second term. and then with bill clinton, of course; was richard melon safe who funded all the investigations that led to paula jones and on and on, and the articles in the american spectator. but nothing compared to the money and the organization that we've seen on the part of charles and david koch who are the heads of koch industries

in changing our policy in afghanistan to count terrorism. we're trying to prop up a government in afghanistan. couldn't terrorism requires far less troops and focuses at striking against al qaeda sweledl as well as any taliban insurjents we might need for the purpose of our fight. i believe that the draw down in afghanistan is well positioned. i'm actually an advocate of something that is more accelerated. i have been for quite some time and i believe we focus on couldn't terrorism which risks less lives. >> we're going to go back on the economy. you say you support a comprehensive solution to the deficit that includes revenues and cuts in spending. can you name one program you've eliminated while you've been in congress? >> yes the s 22. i voted this is something the pentagon did not want but there were those advocating for it. i voted against the s22 which was cut by the way. i voted on a different alternative fighter engine that was not necessary as well and that was cut. and those are examples of programs that were cut. but whey don't want to do is what my opponent says he embraces the ry

with the social media. it is fair to say that the chinese government said several times in a press conference and to foreign delegates that vice- president shi was injured in his back. i think that is enough. more importantly, i was interviewed many times by the media. i say i do not want to comment. there is nothing happening. they would cancel their trip. the police and the military would react unusual. there is no sign whatsoever. it seems like it is very odd that the chinese government is not famous for transparency. they sometimes want to cover things. but also ironically because of the vulnerability that doctor kissinger mention, they face a lot of challenges. for this problem, a successor is in big trouble. they were immediately announced -- you cannot cover. it is a huge liability and would cause further damage for the political system. no leader will be able to do that. usually they will reveal to the public within 12 hours. this is my take. this should be a lesson for us. i'm not defending the chinese government. china needs to follow to be responsible. he is already paralyzed and c

years, we have had revenues coming into the federal government at a level around 15% of gdp. that is a 60-year low. since 1960, we have never had a balanced budget in a year when revenues were less than 18% of gdp. in 2001, the last year we had a surplus, revenues were at 19.5% of gdp. we have a revenue problem. we need tax reform to solve it. some on the left have suggested corporate tax reform could be a source for new revenue but here i disagree. to preserve our international competitiveness, it is imperative we seek to reduce the corporate rate from 35% and do it on a revenue-neutral basis. this will boost growth and encourage more companies to reinvest in the united states. corporate tax reform, under the leadership of chairman baucus senator hatch should be treated separately from our attempt to get a handle on the deficit. but when it comes to the individual side of the code, our approach must be different. in this part of reform, the new money we collect from broadening the tax base cannot all be applied to prepare -- to reducing rates or else we will not get enough

agency. >> the government does a great job at cleaning things up. >> absolutely. >> they write extensively on green regulators. >> rivers are not catching fire any more. that's a great thing. >> we go through public opinion in those years and even as the nations air and water were getting cleaner american people were getting increasingly worried about the environment. why is that do you think? >> we went from not worrying at all in the 40s and 50s to possibly worrying too much or at least worrying about the wrong thing. >> blame that on environmental doomsday books beginning with silent spring by marine biologist rachel carson. a run away best seller it envisions humans gradually destroying the world by among other things the indiscreme nim use of chemicals. >> long board credits silent spring with launching the modern environmental movement. that movement showed it's strength by getting william russell house the first epa chief to ban the pdc. they were followed by increasing restrictions worldwide of the pesticide over the next 30 years. >> long headed long board said because

government and the position they find themselves in , presumably, they would want to stop this. >> certainly, they don't want to get embroiled in a bilateral fight with the syrian regime on the ground. that has been clear from the beginning. there is a concerted nato division -- if there were a concerted nato decision to intervene, then turkey would support that, but it does not want to fight on its own . the dangers are evident. on the other hand, it is spilling across their border. they have tens of thousands of refugees to cope with and now they have their own citizens been killed on their own soil. so they felt clearly they had to respond to that. i suspect they will keep it to a minimum at the moment and yet keep open the option of hitting back harder if they feel they have to. >> thank you very much. could it be a moment which perhaps turns the u.s. presidential election campaign > -- ? the first televised debate has been widely judged a triumph for mitt romney, who had been lagging in opinion polls. he has often been called stiff and awkward in public, judy big -- yet he appeared more

to secretary of state hillary clinton claiming that quote, multiple u.s. federal government officials confirmed to the committee that prior to september 11th attack, the u.s. mission in libya made repeated requests for increased security in benghazi. the mission in libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in washington. the fbi arrived in benghazi wednesday, three weeks after the attack, but spent only about 12 hours there. we're back with dan henninger, and also wall street board, matt comiskey and bret, foreign policy has said to be a big edge for president obama. is that edge eroding maust of libya and the middle east. >> i think it is eroding and time the president to get credit for policies that don't exist. >> there's focus on the kind of bureaucratic blunders made both prior didded especially prior to the attack and not sufficiently securing our diplomatic security there. >> it's an important issue? >> it's a democratic issue. >> paul: don't we have to keep our diplomatic issues secure? >> yes, but it's not the largest issue. i think these congressman, darrell issa will be

affirm that it is ok for a public institution, whether it's government body handing out contracts or student or college admitting students, that it's ok for them to try to make sure that their student body looks like the state looks. they should if at all practical use factors on race and economic disadvantage, are you the first in your family to go to college? but if you see public institutions where the numbers of students dramatically different then the state population, i think it's an indication of challenge and problem that we have to try to solve. i strongly believe the diversity of our commonwealth is the strength, diversity of our nation is a strength and we ought to see diversity in our public bodies. >> mr. allen? >> i'm in some agreement with tim's expressions. i'm someone who's in favor of affirmative recruitment and i think everyone regardless of background ought to have an equal opportunity to compete and succeed. i would not want to deny people an opportunity based oni would e an opportunity based on race regardless of what their race is. while affirmative recruitm

electronically it was as good as if it had been printed by the government printing office, it delivered over here and then distributed. there were other things we did, mandatory wed casting -- web castin, really pushing companies to do that. as part of the effort to make electronic texts available in serve as a place where we could measure our own efforts to comply with the three day rule. we traded a centralized portugal for text coming up in the coming week. for all of this year that has been online for stuff coming to the floor there a lot of good work from our colleagues that were in the clerk's office. i would expect that would come on line for commit these early next year. that work is ongoing. looking at the next congress, i do not see the need for a whole lot of rule changes on this front. we're still in the process of the rule changes we made last time and evaluating their impact on what we're doing here in terms of our day to day legislative business. i think individual committees are trying to work really hard to make themselves more transparent. i know we are at the rules committee. i

command of international affairs and his insight in the workings of government and other actors. with these gentlemen we are poised for an illuminating conversation about the world, the future and the revenge of geography. bobbit and david, over to you. >> i think you're probably not supposed to see the serious moderator by but i love this book. it's ridiculous how many yell will post its i've put in it. i'm not just doing it to flatter the teacher because i really like it and i want to try to walk the audience through this or have him what the audience through and i would like to start with a provocative opening comment. you said my reporting of for three decades convinced me we need to recover the sensibility of time and space that has been lost in the information age's when they dash across the continent which allow us to talk a lot of the distinguished columnist tom friedman labeled a flat world. instead level introduced readers to the decidedly unfashionable figures to push up against the notion that geography no longer matters. i want to ask you to start with the basics of

evolving relationship with the new libyan government to control al-qaeda's presence and respect their sovereignty. where do we go in this evolving arab spring, in libya in particular. >> a lot of this takes time. building up a strong system of government, institution of government libya in particular build gadhafi never wanted an institution that would rival his him. every political faction within libya has weapons and obviously at least one of them or more used them on the consulate a few weeks ago. >> eliot: what i hear you saying, and what i think is critically important, after the revolution after the sort we witnessed and facilitateed in lib y things evolve. and the president used the phrase, there will be bumps in the road. the arc of any evolution is that it evolves over time. diplomacy could be a problem when it is so needed. >> there is a strategy, turning the opposition that overthrew gadhafi into a functioning government and help that government blow a popular support--grow a popular support. that will take time. there is a strategy, but where romney gets it wrong is

about. romney wants to decrease the size of government. it was not a game changer. we knew what they were going to say. >> did you think it was well moderated? >> i felt like most of the questions were pretty good. the one question i thought -- the mission of the federal government -- i thought that was an irrelevant question. you know they are going to try to decrease the size of government, trying to give government back to the states. obama will obviously quite a stronger government. the moderator did a good job. >> next is alex from indiana. what did you think? >> i thought mitt romney showed great poise during the debate. he just looked overall more polished than obama did. i thought the moderating was great. people have to get their views across. i believe that obama during the debate concluded even more to me that he is not what we need over the next four years. he has talked about the same things for the past year during the campaign, which is providing more safety nets for lower income people, putting in more government regulations on small businesses and big businesses

about a stimulus and hiring more government workers and having the government making investments. of course, he talks about raising taxes. they plan to raise taxes on the american people and that will kill jobs. we want to create jobs and not kill jobs in this country. [applause] we also heard this plan are raising taxes and cutting medicare. in fact, there has been a study released this week. the people look at his spending plans and all of the debt they create and interest that its charge. he will raise taxes on the middle class as well by some $4,000 per family. the american people do not want more taxes. they want less spending and more growth. we will do that and get america back on a balanced budget. [applause] i do not want to raise taxes on any one. this president seems to think that keeping our taxes the same as they are now is a huge tax cut. only in washington would do thing keeping taxes as they are is a huge tax cut. hot i will find a way to bring our taxes down -- i will find a way to bring down our taxes. we will give the middle class a tax break. [cheers and appla

those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government. and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> reporter: romney used the trickle-down government phrase for the first time in the debate, saying the president believed in more government, big spending, and higher taxes calling his policies a failure. >> under the president's policies, middle-income americans have been buried. they're-- they're just being crushed. middle-income americans have seen their income come down by $4,300. this is a-- this is a tax in and of itself. i'll call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. >> reporter: campaign aides say he will continue to hit obama hard on the economy and jobs. and will offer more specifics which they've been promising for some time. he is also ramping up spending on television after being outspent by the president more than two to one in swing states ask this morning released a new ad reinforcing his message in the debate. >> who will raise taxes on the middle class? according to an independent, nonpartisan study, barack obama and the liberals will raise

of this week, the tax cliff that comes off the spending, the taxes and the more government bureaucracy is exactly what the democrats are selling. this has caused a hiewmg impact on employment, we have a lack of jobs and the future that lies ahead is very bleak, economically. republicans offer a sound plan, not just to cut taxes but to get us back to work and our candidates differ with every single democrat on this issue, i think we will do just fine. >> shannon: we mentioned the key states where you are watching, ohio, california, massachusetts, can you give us insight maybe into the seats that are leaning one way or the other and you are dwoaing a lot of resources to make sure it falls into your column? >> did you mention, a race in massachusetts. one of the top republican challengers that we have against john teenager neboston. richard is doing a fabulous job. he has ethically challenged the american people, not only want and need honest members of congress, but i think we will win that seat. as you look across the country, republicans are on offense, all across the country, against

perspective when it comes to the tune of government than i do. i think you believe that government is the wherewithal for what we need in this country. i do not. i believe in private enterprise, private responsibility, but i thank you for your service. welcome for that service. i respect that she is a mother, a rancher, a small business person. i think she is campaigning in all three of those things they have a great deal of respect for what she did on a school board and a legislature. you are always putting yourself at risk. we have fundamental disagreements. the negative advertising, in one year and -- on you have to do is avoid watching television is not a bad option. what she just said is not true. i started a business in nebraska, and the first thing i had to do to start our business must get a permit from the city office, talk to the county, the state. i understand that government does not create jobs. i understand you've got to be careful with taxes and regulation to make that hpen. thats political rhetoric in my view, and it does not resemble the facts. she said it is diffu

worried are you? >> i am very worried. my friends who are working for the government and contributing and supporting the military don't know what the future is for themselves. they are supporting our special operators on the very edge of battle and watching all of the conversation about defense spending cuts and they are just worried about how to protect themselves. >> brian: i see that good looking guy behind you. what have you done in the last 10 years? >> i recently retired and finished up as sergeant of the task force and special operations and i returned to afghanistan as an advisor for petraeus. >> brian: look at that picture to the right. that looks follow. go ahead. >> right behind me besides the bad mustache. we are training th new iraqi counter terrorism force. >> brian: that was you in bin laden's compound. where they did the famous going through the monkey bars and everything. this is just there. >> what you see there, remember all of the jihadi videos and they popumm out of the ground. that ring i have was made from the mine which bin laden was mining to sponsor terrorism

. the protection against government sponsorship and promotion of religion, which is a vital component of religious liberty. i will just say a few words about where we are today and where we used to be. they are important right next to each other. as for the separation of church and state, the protection against government sponsorship of religion there was little and today it is far more robust, but absent flows and a lot of that depends on the current competition and chemistry of the supreme court and the rest of the federal court in state courts as well. but a while back there was virtually none. i think there is a great deal more of that protection today. it is very much in jeopardy. on the free exercise side, it is never been particularly robust in this country, unfortunately. and i think it is very fortunate. today it is a mixed bag. in 1990, the supreme court severely limited the constitutional protection for free exercise in the way that i think probably all of us at this table think was wrong. and since then, there have been legislative efforts to correct the problem. what the court said ba

. i am currently unemployed. i worked for a company that works for the government. we have been told we would be losing our contract on january 27. they say the unemployment rate in oklahoma is pretty good and i hope so because i will be looking for a job in january. host: what type of work do you do? caller: we basically collect -- we make sure that insurance companies reimburse the government for accident claims. host: so it is health-related. caller: yes. host: now that you know your contract will not be renewed, tell us about what you are doing in the meantime. caller: i will sign up for some additional training at our local community college to improve my computer skills and hopefully find another government job. with the unemployment rate at 7.8% of which i believe is correct, i don't think i will have a problem. host: to many people work in your field? caller: i have worked in the field for the last 20 years with medicare processing. host: what about others you associate with? what does the work better look like for them? are there those unemployed and looking for work? what a

declaring war irdlede pscriptiondrugexpaded they are concerned with the lack of accountability in government. in the case of occupy, it's wall street, and guess what -- they are both right. >> he summed it up beautifully. >> when you were running, it was a matter of people getting to call into an 800-number. now we're into this world of social media, where you can tweet something out in a matter of seconds. do you think that would make a third-party iran or any kind of a people's movement easier today than it was 20 years ago when you had to rely on people calling in to a phone number? do you think the computer revolution, which you have been involved since the start, and in particular at the social media revolution of the last several years, should create a situation where you are on twitter, where you can mobilize people more easily? >> sure. >> shouldn't that make the type of solution you are talking about, people demanding change, similar to have? >> that is what we need, and i think that is a good way to do it. >> the problem would be they have the tools today to instantly to mobilize.

of the government, i don't receive any royalties, so the price has been set very low, and i hope you all enjoy it. [laughter] >> let's talk a little bit about the idea that these machines have proceeded us to mars. is it still, ultimately, the target to put a human being there? >> for sure. and it's sometimes very surprising if you talk -- all of the scientists i spoke to really want to be there. they, they sense that they need to be there in order to do exploration the way it should be done. and part of it has to do with all those limitations that i talked about. they all want to go in different places. we'd accomplish a lot more with six people than six people standing on a skateboard together. and i think your point, though, about anticipating or preparing has become more and more real. i don't think we understood that so well before mer. that we could for reasonable cost put these rovers in different places around mars and figure out where would we want to go, where should we land, where should the human landing be. >> so what's the time limit? >> what's that? >> what's the timeline? >> write

have no problem with requiring an i.d. as long as number one, you know, the government makes a proactive effort to go to people who are qualified to vote, register to vote but you know, don't have i.d.s and you know i wonder for example some states, why does an expired, and i will say this for tsa too, why does an expired driver's license not work? i mean, did your identity change because your driver's license -- license -- -- viewer 93 years old and your driver's license expired four years ago. what is the problem they're? and also that it's kosher. in other words, if a concealed carry permit in texas is allowed, then why isn't a university of texas student i.d. also issued by the state of texas not count? it is kosher and above and beyond that you know i don't think it's particularly onerous. most people in society do have to register. in nursing homes and institutionalized settings or other places. most people do have i.d.s and i think the government could do something to reach into other places and help people get i.d.s but that should be part of the deal. let's go back t

people that want to work. everybody in this country should succeed, not just people in government. host: president obama gave an address yesterday talking about how congress should act to keep taxes low. let's take a listen. >> 97% of small-business owners will not see their taxes go up next year. this is something everybody says they agree on. it should have gotten done months ago. republicans in congress are standing in the way. there are holding tax cuts for 98% of americans hostage until they pass tax cuts for of the richest 2%. congress needs to step up and provide every responsible homeowner a chance to save $3,000 a year on mortgage at refinancing at lower rates. i give them a plan to do that in february. it is a plan that has the support of independent nonpartisan economists. republicans will not let it come to a vote. ask them how that helps homeowners. congress needs to step up and pass my plan to create a job corps to help our returning heroes find jobs as cops, firefighters and park rangers across the country. republicans in the senate voted that plane down. ask them why som

to disagree on how the government might help add jobs. the president seemed to call on more government initiatives while romney seeks less. the debate started about an hour ago and has 30 minutes less. we will have more in a live report from denver for you in just 12 minutes. >>> now to our continuing coverage of the oakland a's story. this afternoon the plot got even more improbable. on the final game of the regular season in front of a packed coliseum crowd, the a's quenched the american league west after never having once led the division all year. there was quite a celebration this afternoon. fred. >> absolutely, gasia. the second showering this week as a matter of fact. you know, june 30th, the oakland a's trailed texas by 13 games in the standing and since then they went on a 57 to 26 tear. this is the best record in major league baseball since june 30th and their mo is usually come back victories just like today. they trailed texas 5 to 1 in the fourth inning when the a's put ten batters up to the plate. they scored six runs on four hits, two walks, and one big error for texas.

had four years ago. a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, trickle-down government would work. host: facebook.com/span. what were the highs and lows of the debate is what we had on our facebook page. we're trying to read as many of those as possible. here is the front page of "the news york times." gil from pensacola, florida on our others line. caller: as a debate, i think that mitt romney did very well. this is a about a campaign. the question is where were you then and how are you now? how will you bring it around? what do you have to do to change tax policy? people can see a point in time at any minute and make a decision, but if you are looking at the long road, i keep saying, okay, mr. obama, what are you going to change to get the house and the senate to work together? mr. romney, what is your plan? which of the plants that you talk about are you there for? -- which of the plans are you there for? are you going to give a 20% across the board tax reduction? as a person that follows this stuff, i find it is difficult to take one minute in the ev

has a view, similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago, a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government would work. that's not the right answer for america. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. >> i suppose mr. romney thought the president wouldn't recognize the term trickle-down if he twisted it around. romney is proposing boilerplate trickle-down economics providing tax relief for businesses with the false hope that they won pocket that money but rather put it into new jobs. help the rich get richer and then they'll help everyone else. but hey, mr. romney's plan as stated in the debate may in fact sound right to you. but don't call it new. it's a been there, done that track record. lower taxes on the rich, simply don't lead to job growth. when you compare the top marg

and these are all government documents and they have never been found. so that was one thing he seems to have gotten away with. another thing was in 2004, smart tag played a central role in the presidential election. the secretary of each state, a part of their job is to oversee an impartial election. you may recall kathleen harris in florida was secretary of state of florida and she also haven't played a central role in the bush election and there is considerable controversy over that. well, a very similar thing happened in ohio in 2004, where ken blackwell was secretary of state. and again, he was supposed to oversee a fair and impartial election. but he happened to be cochaired the bush cheney reelection committee. he decided to tabulate the return for the 2004 election was secretary of state's computers weren't enough than they needed to get another set of computer service. so who did he go to both smart tack. smart tax roll raises an amount of very interesting questions. i went through the returns as deeply studied. there were several lawsuits. you can see when the returns came in that night. a

civil society, the first amendment has the greatest protection. the government needs to protect the speaker and for those who say they want to engage in violence, we'll arrest you for engaging in violence and all it's going to do is embolden those. >> reporter: during the hearing, the u.s. district judge collier characterized the part of the poster as being part of hate speech and wondered aloud if metro manager's concerns are reasonable and did not issue a ruling today. the person who wants to put up the poster was hoping for a quick ruling and ordering metro it put them up right away. the judge, however, said she hinted she would give her ruling quickly in this case. >>> it's become a dangerous path for residents since january. there have been eight robberies in and around fort taunton park. some of the muggings were at gunpoint. residents are concerned. earlier, kenyon mc. duffy and eleanor holmes norton went on a walking tourist park and they looking for solutions to the crime. >> we have the community support and they have been hard at work and we're going to implement what

as compared to romney's own perscriptions that call for smaller less expensive government. for the president what he's going to try to do is say look, maybe things aren't so great but it is partly the fault of george w. bush and the republicans who were in office prior to the democrats taking control in 2009, so we need time to fix it, and by the way, the president will also say that he wants to increase taxes on people like mitt romney to help pay down some of that debt. >> reporter: we just put of that graphic there showing the $16 trillion of debt and there are so many digits it almost doesn't fit on the tv screen across the screen there, as you can see. but haven't americans in some way become number to astronomical numbers? how serious is this in. >> they have become number. is it the new normal this massive spilling of red ink but it raises three problems which i don't think the nation has got even to grips with yet. number one our economy is smaller than our debt. we look like europe, we know what happened there. number two we are spending $9 billion every week just paying interest on

at bloomberg government, the roth political report -- and a reminder that if you enjoyed today, we do this for state of the industry conferences. a reminder -- in four weeks, election day will be held. a couple of days afterward, we will have a major event at the chamber, on the morning of november 8. we hope you will mark our -- mark your calendars and join us. thank you very much, and have a great day. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> both presidential candidates are in ohio, with rallies this afternoon. mitt romney is a kind of false -- is at the falls. the president fifth event at ohio state university will start shortly. meanwhile, a discussion of how the presidential race shapes up. >> we will be getting electoral scoreboard updates from a lot of publications. today, we feature "the wall street journal." which are joined by a political reporter there. thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. host: what are we looking at? guest: you can see which states we have classifie

aggressive as they talked act the economy, health care and the role of the government. karen travers breaks down the argument. >> reporter: the president and romney finally went head to head. right out of the gate the candidates boiled down their economic arguments. >> governor romney, has a perspective that says if we cut taxes, go toward the wealthy and roll back regulation that we will be better off. i have a different view. >> the president has a view similar to the one he had when he ran four years ago. if you will trickle down government would work. that's not the right answer former. >> reporter: his comments about the 47% have taken a toll on his campaign. even before that leaked video show that americans think he favors the wealthy. tonight he wanted to try to change that perspective. >> the people who are having the hard time right now are middle income americans. under the president's policies they have been buried. they are just being crushed. i will not under any circumstances race taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: the president said he doesn't have the right ans

after that incident. > departments in the bay area feeling the squeeze as the government cuts grants to help those departments. figures show that this year the government cut $140 million in financial aid to local fire departments. california was already hit with a two million dollar reduction in federal fire grants in 2010. the united states fire administration which helps local firefighters is also poised for a budget cut. >> they are limited dollars. locally they struggle with budgets at the federal level. >> reporter: oakland officials say their department is dealing with tough economic times and they say they will have to start looking for other sources of revenue if grants continue to dry up. >> now to the election coverage. romney has taken a slight lead over the president. according to polls, in the five- days after last week's debate 49% of likely voters say they support romney, 47% say they back obama. however, among all registered voters, the president still holds a three point lead over romney. >> the folks behind seasame street asking the obama campaign to stop runnin

together to govern. he was the first candidate ever to lose white business double digits and win. there is a racial element that is in the backdrop here. not necessarily racism, but very different views about the role of government and very different views about the parties. if it moves things at the margin, could it matter? sure. the last slice of voter also decide this they are forward looking at this point. and 2007 is a long way to reach back when you're dealing with 8% unemployment. >> ron brownstein, thank you so much. >>> the debate is not just stressful for the candidates but also for their wives. both michelle obama and ann romney are talking about their role in the debates. first lady says she mostly offers positive reinforcement but does get nervous. >> i get so nervous at these debates and, you know, i'm like one of those parents watching their kid on the balance beam. you're just standing there, just trying not to, you know, have any expression at all. >> ann romney says she comforts her husband during the debates and he looks for her in the audience. she talked up o

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